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Monday, August 10, 2015

Kansas City Chiefs Training Camp Battles and Side Notes



Clayton -

Camp is off and running for Kansas City and this is a big year coming up after such a disappointing year. I have been critical of both staff and personnel, but despite this, I have hope after another year of playing over .500. After some departures and additions, it is time to look at training camp battles with only a few days to go before the first preseason game against the Cardinals.



Cornerback #2/3

Competitors

Phillip Gaines and Marcus Peters

Gaines is a modern day corner, fast, long and explosive. Gaines may appear to have the advantage over the other guys because he has a year on one of them and a higher draft status of the others. He should see plenty of time since Sean Smith will be suspended for the first the games of the year, possibly even starting in place of Smith or across the winner of the battle for the second guy. KC should be hoping he shows some development, but honestly if he is starting across from Smith when he returns, it may be taking valuable time away from the next guy on the list.

Even though I do not like the University of Washington, I love their players as not only are the Lakers supposed to be signing the dismissed Robert Upshaw, but the Chiefs drafted Peters who was also dismissed from the University. Upshaw will be discussed in a future piece, but in regards to Peters, I think he was the best corner in this draft. He is the most fluid athlete and has the best coverage and ball skills of the bunch. Essentially, he is a better version of Gaines in nearly every category other than some measurables.

Peters clearly had red flags but Reid and Dorsey & co. took the risk on him to hopefully get a home run pick here. Peters should be one of the two guys who step up during Smiths previously mentioned suspension and hopefully wins the job opposite of him following his return.



Third to sixth spot corners

Competitors

Marcus Cooper, Steven Nelson, 

Sanders Commings & Jamell Flemming

The former feel good story of the late drafted Cooper getting out and starting is long gone, yet KC has kept him around. Cooper is still extremely raw despite being in the league two years already. He is still quite young, big, fast, strong, and shows good traits, but the intangibles and football IQ are not quite there. If he lags behind others, Cooper could soon find himself looking for a new team.

Nelson was another surprise pick in the many that have come from KC in the past couple of years. He was likely a reach and not a true fit for the modern day NFL, as he does not possess great speed, size or fluidity. Nelson is what many coaches love though, as he is a fiery competitor and knows how “to play the game.” Nelson is probably a year or two away from providing a lot, but is solid depth while he learns.

Sanders Commings is the guy that I can not figure out. It might not even be right to have him here at corner, when he could very well play safety. He has everything you want from a corner in today’s game. Size, speed, skills, athleticism, versatility and seems to have a solid work ethic.

Problem is his durability. He has missed all but two games in his short NFL career due to injuries (fractured ankle and fibula last year and in 2013 a fractured clavicle).

He is talented, but has he learned enough in practices to make up for the lost developmental time? KC seems to be sticking with him, but he could very well be on the chopping block, especially if he suffers another injury in camp or during the preseason.

Flemming seems to be the low man on the totem pole, but the team as with a lot of these guys, is rumored to be attached to him. He does have good length and decent speed to match up, but he should be mainly used in special teams and emergency situations. If Commings stays at corner, I could see Flemming losing out to Cooper in the possible last spot on the depth chart.



2nd/3rd Wide Receiver

Competitors - Chris Conley, Jason Avant, De’Anthony Thomas

Comments on Albert Wilson, 

Frankie Hammond, Junior Hemingway

It was an insanely rough year for KC wideouts last year as they did not record a receiving touchdown. To try to counter that, the Chiefs went out and overpaid signed Jeremy Maclin. KC went on to develop some guys sign a vet and trade up in the draft for another.

The guy KC traded up to acquire was the athletic freak that is Conley, so until the season is underway, I do not know how he should not be the starter opposite of Maclin. His size, athleticism combo is highly intriguing. He is young and still raw, but should get every chance to prove himself. 

He is currently recovering from a knee strain, so he may be falling a bit behind, but he is reportedly practicing again and even got some plays in with the 1s according to Terez Paylor over at the Kansas City Star (follow Paylor on twitter at @TerezPaylor). Kansas City should be patient and give Conley the chance to play next to Maclin. Conley may not be ready by Saturday, but hopefully will get back into gear by next week.

Avant was brought in last season after he was cut by Carolina, but he is also known as a Reid favorite from his Philly days. Personally I would have Avant deep on the depth chart, and just ask him to teach the young guys along with Maclin the fine tunings of what it is like to play.

Unfortunately, Avant will likely get a decent amount of play, even though he was never great and has regressed (I mean, the receiver needy Panthers cut him last year...).



De’Anthony Thomas appears to be the slot guy all the way despite his lack of size. His explosive speed will be excellent in the spot, and is needed to help separate from coverages since he does not have the height to get vertical over the guys covering him.

In a vine recently shot, Thomas puts Phillip Gaines on his ass after a great display of sharp route running and shiftiness. With him converted to a full time receiver now, he should start to develop nicely.



Comments on Late Wide Receiver Depth 

Lastly are the three holdovers in Wilson, Hammond and Hemingway. They really should be more of the fourth to sixth wideouts on the roster.

I do not have high opinions on any of them, but with DAT the likely slot, I cannot see Wilson getting a load of PT due to his small stature. At only 5’9,” Wilson to me would not be the greatest fit. He did play well at the end of the season, and even reportedly is currently no. 2 on the depth chart due to Conley’s injury, but I cannot see that sticking unless he just goes bananas in camp and the preseason. 

Hammond and Hemingway both have a bit more size to go along with decent speed, but do not measure up to the other guys in competition.

All three were late round picks or undrafted, so unless they blow away coaches, one or two may be cut.




Center 

Competitors

Eric Kush and Mitch Morse 

The Chiefs used a sixth round pick on Kush two years ago and let him develop behind the departed Rodney Hudson. Kush to me is more of a depth player, but the team seems to really like his skills. Kush could begin the season as the starter, but shortly after will be relegated back to the bench.

With Rodney Hudson departing to the rival Raiders, Kansas City needed to shore up the Center spot and get a good young guy to take over. Insert the big (6’5”), quick (4.5 second 20 yard shuttle) and strong (36 reps at the combine), former tackle from Mizzou.

I was and still am highly critical of the Morse pick because I felt he could have been picked much later and there were high quality guys ahead of him. Regardless, Morse should be given every opportunity to start due to his draft status. Like I said above, Kush could start the season with Morse hopefully securing the spot around the midway point of the season, possibly showing his worth.



Defensive End

This is really about starting as these three and probably another guy or two will run a good rotation to keep guys fresh and healthy, so this is not truly a competition like the others.

Though Kansas City still does not have anyone to truly help give Dontari Poe an extended breather, the Chiefs do have some very good depth at the end spots. Amazingly, their best guy at the position in my opinion, Allen Bailey, may be behind at the moment despite signing a decent sized extension about midway through the season last year.

Due to the money aspects, I can see Bailey retaining his spot, but this position will likely be very fluid with a lot of rotations going on. Bailey fits in perfectly between Justin Houston and Dontari Poe, but does need to create a lot more pressure despite recording six sacks and stopping the run in order to start.

Last seasons starter, DeVito, was lost very early, as in the first game, last year due to a ruptured Achilles. If he is healthy and back to his previous performance, he too should retain his starting spot with a good helping of a rotation. DeVito did agree to restructure his deal and actually took a pay cut in order to stay with the team. DeVito is known for his run stuffing, so hopefully he can come back and continue in that department.



The guy who replaced DeVito, Jaye Howard, comes in eager to pick up where he left off after a very solid year. The big guy is pretty athletic with a very quick burst off the line, and shows good run stopping abilities. He does suffer from inconsistency, but the team is very high on him. He is likely to be rotated with the two guys mentioned above, but if all three are at a stalemate, I would continue on with the two guys above a the starters for the time being.

This really is not a huge issue in the big picture since all three will get plenty of PT, but it could be interesting to see how the Chiefs go into the season in their thinking.

With the rotation of these three and likely Mike Catapano or Vaughn Martin, and even late round pick Rakeem Nunez-Roches



Side Notes

What the hell are the Chiefs going to do with Dee Ford? 

This was an odd pick to begin with (a clear reach), but in a lot of reports it seems that Ford still is not getting it. So much for he is better than Clowney huh? Ford is going to have to start showing something if wants to take over for Hali if/when he is gone next year.

Unfortunately, Ford may have suffered a concussion in a recent practice, further setting him back. 

With Houston and Hali clearly better, the Chiefs are going to have to find ways to get him on the field. We may see the Chiefs try to integrate all three in the same way the Giants did a few years ago with Strahan, Kiwaunaka and Umenyiora.

Another idea, and I honestly have no idea if Ford could pull this off, is to see if Ford could play inside with Derrick Johnson for the time being. This is highly unlikely, but unless Defensive Coordinator Bob Sutton wants to shift Hali inside to a DE in a lot of situations, and play Ford as the edge rusher, he will be in a smaller rotation. So, Ford may be stuck and underwhelming for another year unless an unfortunate injury occurs.



The integration of Eric Berry, Mike DeVito and Derrick Johnson back into the fold?

DeVito and DJ seem to be back into the swing of things and they seem to be controlling their own destiny. Both appear to be back to starting and helping out in every way they can.

The real question is how are they going to get Berry involved again after he was declared Lymphoma free. He should not and thankfully appears to not being pushed to rush back and put into his starting spot just yet, but it will be interesting to see how long they wait to get him playing full time again. 

With the Chiefs overpaying (catching a theme here) re-signing Ron Parker due to his solid play at the strong safety spot in Berry’s place last year, he is slotted to start at the moment. If Berry gets back soon, Parker may fit well over at free safety due to his speed.



An even more interesting aspect could be a starting combo later in the year of Commings, who I mentioned could be the future at safety, along with a healthy Berry. I think that may be a year from now though.

Bottom line, despite the contract signed by Parker, I cannot see a healthy Berry being relegated to the bench for Parker. Once healthy we will likely see Berry and Parker paired up but with Parker being a career journeyman, I am skeptical he lasts long. Thus, I think that if both are healthy, Berry and Commings will be the future.



Right side of the offensive line and depth?

This really could be up in the camp battles portion but with both spots totally fluid, it may be best to just talk about it here.

The left side of the line seems set with Eric Fisher and new acquisition Ben Grubbs, but rest of the line is up the air, at least in terms of depth. Center seems to be set as well for now with Kush, and likely Morse soon in the future, as mentioned above. The real question will be the right side guard and tackle. Vets Jeff Allen and Donald Stephenson do appear to have it locked up, but they have both had consistency, injury or suspension issues.

Stephenson may be the most set of the two, with Allen’s job is up in the air. The Chiefs signed vet Paul Fanaika to a three year $6.1 million deal, which may lead to either starting or getting the roster spot over a better, younger, cheaper option. Something odd may be that Fanaika could be on the third string, behind a cheaper option. Could his salary and cap hit force KC to keep him and drop a better cheaper option? Unfortunately it may do just that.

For the development guys, the Chiefs also seem to be very high on Zach Fulton, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Jarrod Pughsley, and even former 1st round pick Derek Sherrod, who is still quite young at 26. Due to the money and cap issues, we are likely to see at least one or two cut.

When it is all said and done, the line and depth will probably consist of Fisher, Grubbs, Kush, Allen, and Stephenson to start out the season, with Morse (possibly starting later), Fulton, Fanaika and maybe Pughsley to serve as the reserves. That would mean Duvernay-Tardif and Sherrod as cut, but it could be possible the Chiefs hide the younger guys on the practice squad.

Personally I would like to keep Duvernay-Tardif over Fanaika, but it might be as simple as who is better. The cap hit by Fanaika may have something to say over it.

Even though I like Sherrod, his past injuries and lack of performance will likely have him seeking a spot with another team unless he has a great showing in camp.


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Tuesday, May 12, 2015

Kansas City Chiefs Draft Review and Grades

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Clayton -

Jeff, the NFL Draft was a couple weeks ago now, so we can all calm down and see how it all fell out. Well, except Jaguars fans who already lost the No. 3 overall pick, Dante Fowler Jr (Sorry Josh, hopefully a soon to be contributor to Tank To Win). I’ll start off the series with the Kansas City Chiefs and Jeff will follow in a few days with his Falcons grades.

Kansas City Chiefs

Round 1 - No.18 - Marcus Peters - CB - Washington

I was expecting to pick a guy like Jaelen Strong (crazy slide into the 3rd round), the minor sliding of Breshad Perriman, or a high risk/high reward pick of Dorial Beckham Green. The need for receiver is severe and it was presumed that with this pick, help would be on the way.

Not so fast though! Kansas City was just as worried as me when it came to the secondary, picking up the most talented corner in the draft in my opinion, but a big risk, Marcus Peters. A favorite of mine, I said to look out for him in our Draft Predictions post.

I was ecstatic to see the pick of Peters. The prototype of the modern day corner, Peters is big (6’0” and 198 pounds), has good speed for his size (4.53, 40 yards dash), and is quick based on his 60 yards shuttle, 11.26 seconds.

There is risk involved with Peters. He was kicked off of the Huskies by new head coach Chris Peterson, but after discussions with former Huskies coach, Steve Sarkisian, the Chiefs felt it was a risk worth taking. Peters is more talent than technique at the moment, but with Bob Sutton at the helm, and secondary coaches Emmitt Thomas and Al Harris, Peters should be placed in a position to succeed.

Sean Smith is a free agent after the season, so a possible replacement was needed if Kansas City is unable to re-sign Smith.

Grade - A-

Round 2 - No. 49 - Mitch Morse - OL - Missouri

This… this was an awful pick. Sure Andy Reid and Co. could develop him, but Mitch Morse could have been had in the next round, possibly picking OT Jake Fisher, NT Jordan Phillips, OG A.J. Cann or even WR Jaelen Strong. Those are all guys that were available, not to mention other guys who slid down the boards.

Morse is likely to find his home at center instead of tackle in the pros. Morse has a strong upper body, but short arms and needs to improve his lower body strength. Kind of sounds like Rodney Hudson, strong upper body, short arms, needed to improve his lower half.

Problem is, Hudson is a much better athlete and played on the interior in college. Morse has a stiff lower half and only played tackle at Mizzou. Hopefully there won't be much of a learning curve, as everyone says Morse is incredibly smart, but there were much better options for a number of needs here.

Kansas City had better hope Reid didn’t make another Danny Watkins pick here…

Grade - C-

Round 3 - No. 76 - Chris Conley - WR - Georgia

In our draft prediction piece, I had Conley on Kansas City’s radar. Apparently I am a psychic as the Chiefs traded up to acquire Conley.

Conley is an athletic freak who was overshadowed by Todd Gurley (rightfully so honestly), but he brings a lot to the table.

Guys who are 6’2” and 217 pounds and can run the 40 yard dash in 4.35 seconds do not grow on trees. Conley is very smart, has good sized hands, and knows how to keep his feet inbounds. Conley also is strong in terms of bench (18 reps of 225), and explosive, launching for a 139.0 inch broad jump and a 45” vertical leap. All of those numbers were in the tops of the receivers at the combine according to NFL.com.

There were reasons Conley could be had in the 3rd round though. He dropped a few too many passes, needs to get stronger so he isn’t so easily bumped off of his routes and needs to show the speed and quickness at all times now.

Conley was a great pick this late, despite having to trade up to acquire him. He will have Maclin there to help teach him, and develop along with the other younger guys.

Grade - A

Round 3 - No. 98 - Steven Nelson - CB - Oregon State

Nelson seems to be another reach by Reid. Nelson has already been dubbed as a mighty mouse. He lacks ideal size, speed, leaping ability, and quickness. He does have decent strength though, doing 19 reps on the bench press.

Again, Smith is a free agent after the year, but Nelson is not replacing him, as he is best fit as a nickel or dime back.

There will be a spot for Nelson as Marcus Cooper, Jameel Fleming and Sander Commings have not been able to show consistency, or the ability to stay healthy. Nelson’s main competition likely will be last year’s 3rd round pick Phillip Gaines. At minimum, Nelson provides energy and depth.

Nelson is a high effort guy and has good instincts, but the lack of size and speed are concerning, especially when most slot guys are now burners.

This pick was disappointing as DE Trey Flowers, S James Sample, OT T.J. Clemmings, NT Gabe Wright and CB Josh Shaw were all available.

Grade - C-

Round 4 - No. 118 - Ramik Wilson - ILB - Georgia

John Dorsey and Andy Reid were in a SEC Georgia Bulldog mood, as Wilson was the second Bulldog to go in their first five picks.

Wilson showed better Georgia Pro Day numbers than he did at the Combine, but Wilson seems like a bit of an odd fit. Wilson brings good size, and the improvements in speed at his Pro Day is good, but on tape he had a rough time while in coverage. He is more of a run stuffer at this point, but maybe if Derrick Johnson is healthy, he can bring him along. In that case, this pick will look better.

In Nickel and Dime packages, Wilson will likely come off the field, but you have to hope that he can improve his coverage skills, especially when covering a tight end.

Other options could have been CB Josh Shaw if Nelson wasn’t picked previously (picked two picks later), LB Jake Ryan or LB Kwon Alexander.

Grade - B

Round 5 - No. 172 - D.J. Alexander - LB - Oregon State

Another Oregon State pick, another reach, as Alexander did not even go to the combine. Obviously that does not mean anything, but the pick was a huge surprise, and Alexander could have been had later, like priority free agent later...

Alexander is a speedy guy,and will need time to come along behind Derrick Johnson.

The pick is just so bad and disappointing. Alexander missed time due to a multitude of injuries, including knee, neck injuries, and is undersized. Alexander also seems to be an OLB in a 43. He is not a pass rusher, and that limits him to an ILB in KC. Just awful, even though he will help on special teams

Players that were still available at this spot: DE/DT Michael Bennett, NT Letterious Watson, OLB/DE Anthony Chickillo and LB Deiontrez Mount.

Likely a special teams and practice squad player.

Grade - F+

Round 5 - No. 173 - James O’Shaugnessy - TE - Illinois State

O’Shaugnessy is a good depth pick for a tight end group that is lacking behind Travis Kelce, as Anthony Fasano was released.

He is not a crazy athlete, or have any crazy measurables, but could help if Demetrius Harris or Richard Gordon falter in camp.

He has good size at 6’4” and ran a decent 4.68 40 at his pro day, so he can develop behind Kelce and help stretch the field as a tight end that is in the slot, as he is not a blocker.

Grade - B-

Round 6 - No. 217 - Rakeem Nunez-Roches - DT - Southern Miss

Nunez-Roches was a good run stuffer in Conference USA, despite being known as a penetrating tackle. In KC he is likely to be a 34 DE, but could possibly spell Dontari Poe for a spell, especially in passing situations.

He is way down the depth chart at the moment, especially according to ourlads.com, so he may not even make the 53 man roster, possibly spending time on the practice squad next season.

It could have been incredibly interesting if Kansas City had tried to end Ifo Ekpre-Olomu’s slide, who was finally grabbed in the 7th round. Before his knee injury he was a likely top 2 round pick. Maybe his knee injury was much more complicated than lead to believe, but this late, he should have gotten a look at even as high in the 5th round.

Grade - C

Round 7 - No. 233 - Da’Ron Brown - WR - Northern Illinois

At this point in the draft, you are just taking guys with athleticism or intangibles. The same goes for Ifo Ekpre- Olomu at this spot, but Dorsey and Reid must have liked what they saw from Brown.

Brown is kind of athletic, but not a freak like Conley. At 6’0” and 205 pounds, Brown ran a 4.54 40, possesses great hands at 10 ¼”, and uses his catch radius to his advantage.

He lacks great quickness, the speed actually isn’t great, and he needs major work in his route running, so being an outside threat like he was at NIU is likely out of the question. He is a likely practice squad player, but could push guys like Junior Hemingway, Frankie Hammond, Albert Wilson, Armon Binns (all guys who are not impressive despite fans likely them too much), and the troubled but talented Da’Rick Rogers.

OVERALL GRADE - B

Some needs were met, but there were way too many reaches made, especially when superior talent was available. I mean come on, T.J. Clemmings was available in the 4th round, Michael Bennett was available in the 6th round and Ifo Ekpre-Olomu was there still in the 7th round. The draft likely hinges on Peters, Morse, Conley, Nelson and Wilson. As usual, you hope to nail a couple guys after the fourth and fifth rounds, but the chances are not great ones in my opinion, especially with the lack of value in several guys.

Peters has great potential, but has big bust potential as well if the coaching concerns carry over to the pros. He could either be a shutdown corner in three years or out of the league in the same amount of time. I love the pick, as he was my top corner and could have been picked before Trae Waynes if it weren’t for the team dismissal.

Morse was a huge reach and superior guys were just waiting to be plucked. He may be the guy with the most to prove in the class. He likely heads into camp as the starter about Eric Kush, but according to multiple analysts, Kansas City is very high on Kush, so Morse better prove that he was worth this high of a pick from Day 1.

Conley was a great pick in terms of need and potential. Instead of going with a safe guy, they went for the home run. Hopefully Alex Smith will be able to utilize Conley and Maclin’s speed, and show he has more arm than he showed last year, and it was more of the guys around him.

Steven Nelson was a reach as well, but if he can either push Gaines into playing better, or playing in dime packages as a rookie, this has a chance to be a solid pick despite being the big reach that it was.

Wilson should get some time to learn behind DJ and the other vets on the roster, but the hope is he will push to start next to DJ out of camp or start getting more time after the BYE (week 8). Here’s to hoping Gary Gibbs can get Wilson on the fast track to the starting lineup.

Rest of the picks are all lottery tickets, but Kansas City needs to nail one or two of them though. Time and time again, nailing the late picks is what gets you to the glory. Everyone knows the stories all too well, maybe one of the late guys can become a gem for KC.

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